I've heard about the Science Centre, is there anywhere else that would be good to take kids in Toronto?
Anyone?
i've missed countless "apostofests" and am finally getting a weekend away to toronto.
will anyone be around to meet for lunch/dinner?
i'll be with a friend and we'll be bringing our kiddos.
I've heard about the Science Centre, is there anywhere else that would be good to take kids in Toronto?
Anyone?
i've missed countless "apostofests" and am finally getting a weekend away to toronto.
will anyone be around to meet for lunch/dinner?
i'll be with a friend and we'll be bringing our kiddos.
Hi Chris,
I have a daughter, 11 and a son 5 and we need a break from the gray days and small town atmosphere. Will you have both kids with you? Maybe we could meet somewhere casual where the kids will be easier to watch?
I'll send you an email in a day or two and let you know where we're staying so we can make tentative plans.
Stay warm!
Anne
i've missed countless "apostofests" and am finally getting a weekend away to toronto.
will anyone be around to meet for lunch/dinner?
i'll be with a friend and we'll be bringing our kiddos.
I've missed countless "apostofests" and am finally getting a weekend away to Toronto. Will anyone be around to meet for lunch/dinner? I'll be with a friend and we'll be bringing our kiddos. We're arriving on Friday afternoon and leaving Sunday afternoon. If you might be around and want to meet up, email me at [email protected] and let me know if you're interested.
Restaurant recommendations are very welcome even if you can't make it. ;-)
Thanks,
Anne
i have had several here tell me that if try to disassociate yourself from the org that you will be subject to shunning.
is this true?.
i discussed this issue with the witnesses with whom i study.
Sadie,
You will be shunned if you da yourself. I da'd a couple months ago and one of my closest friends (one who I talked to for a few hours earlier that week about my doubts) sent my cookbooks back to me by US Mail instead of driving the 2 minutes to come over and drop them off in person. Another mother I used to babysit for and bring the kids over to their house walked by me like I wasn't there, so it's true, you will be shunned.
Of course, I knew this would happen. No one told me it wouldn't. I'm surprised he told you otherwise. I hadn't been to many meetings in the last few months and already people were less receptive to me and my children weren't invited to a couple parties, so we weren't missed anyhow.
I am thankful to be gone from amongst those people.
Thankfully I have a very supportive husband and family (well, minus my mother who is still in the cult, but that's life.)
Anne
i have had several here tell me that if try to disassociate yourself from the org that you will be subject to shunning.
is this true?.
i discussed this issue with the witnesses with whom i study.
Sadie,
You will be shunned if you da yourself. I da'd a couple months ago and one of my closest friends (one who I talked to for a few hours earlier that week about my doubts) sent my cookbooks back to me by US Mail instead of driving the 2 minutes to come over and drop them off in person. Another mother I used to babysit for and bring the kids over to their house walked by me like I wasn't there, so it's true, you will be shunned.
Of course, I knew this would happen. No one told me it wouldn't. I'm surprised he told you otherwise. I hadn't been to many meetings in the last few months and already people were less receptive to me and my children weren't invited to a couple parties, so we weren't missed anyhow.
I am thankful to be gone from amongst those people.
Thankfully I have a very supportive husband and family (well, minus my mother who is still in the cult, but that's life.)
Anne
i know ya'll will probably get sick of seeing my name but i hope you understand why i am here so much.. anyway, one really ironic thing i was thinking about is that its amazing how much hate i had/have inside of me my whole life.
hate my father, my sister.
i have always been angry and hated people.
I'm so happy for you!
I found that the the witness way of life was full of negative thinking and I'm currently cleansing my life of negativity. It's affecting every part of my life and I'm amazed that I was able to survive so long in the borg. Last meeting I attended I barely made it on time with the two kids, littlest one crying that he was tired and didn't want to go.
After finding a seat and getting him comfortable with a toy on the floor (while a pioneer sister looked at me with a smug look) I just felt like "what's the use?".
Then, it seemed every part was about "doing more, study with the kids, personal study, study for hte meetings, service, etc." I felt like I had a giant cement block on my shoulder and I knew I was never going to have it all "together".
The scripture where Jesus says that his load is light came to mind and I knew that this didn't feel light, it felt suffocating to me. I never went back and about 4 months later I disassociated myself. During that time only one friend from the hall bothered to check and make sure I was "ok". So, I figured all those friends were "conditional" anyway, so it made it even easier to leave.
I can't believe I gave up any plans for college, didn't go to the plays or dances and missed out on visiting my other relatives as much as I should have. It's hard, but I'm reestablishing contact with them. And you know what? They are showing unconditional love even though my family snubbed them all these years. Now that's what I call real christians.
Good luck to you on your journey. You will go through some grief and anger on the way, but think of it as a cleansing of the spirit.
Anne
i know it was immature, but on the way home from christmas day with my husband's family, we drove by 3 homes of my friends from the hall who were all home, btw, and beeped out christmas greetings with the car horn to them all.
one elder was outside with a confused look on his face.
it was fun, childish, but fun.. the kids had a blast and i had fun checking my stocking for all the little goodies that mean more than the big ones.
I know it was immature, but on the way home from Christmas day with my husband's family, we drove by 3 homes of my friends from the hall who were all home, btw, and beeped out christmas greetings with the car horn to them all. One elder was outside with a confused look on his face. It was fun, childish, but fun.
The kids had a blast and I had fun checking my stocking for all the little goodies that mean more than the big ones. Lingerie, earrings, candy, perfume, etc.
Of course, several toys don't work so that's a disappointment as we'll get to exchange them and wait to play with them.
Hope everyone had a nice break from work/school.
Anne
well, my husband found out about my affair (yes, i gave in to the temptation with the soccer player and while it was fantastic, it's over now) and it's been a devestating time, we almost got divorced, but we're working through it.
i knew telling friends and this board wasn't going to help me fight his romantic advances, but i tried.
it was a one time thing that would have continued, but i wasn't too careful about the clues (guilty conscience i think).
Because, you still have each other while you can have new experiences with others. My husband is more worried that I'll fall in love with someone and leave him. So we're making rules about 3 dates and it's over sort of thing.
I don't know, it's a journey and we're trying to at least stick together and be happy without giving up our family life.
I already met a sweet, sexy woman who's going out with me tonight and if I don't find a nice guy to dance with, I can always flirt with her. If that's the case, I might invite my hubby to join us. I don't think he'll be jealous in that case, do you?
P.S. my lifelong nickname is Liza, just like your wife, but I go by Anne for business and new friends.
well, my husband found out about my affair (yes, i gave in to the temptation with the soccer player and while it was fantastic, it's over now) and it's been a devestating time, we almost got divorced, but we're working through it.
i knew telling friends and this board wasn't going to help me fight his romantic advances, but i tried.
it was a one time thing that would have continued, but i wasn't too careful about the clues (guilty conscience i think).
Well, my husband found out about my affair (yes, I gave in to the temptation with the soccer player and while it was fantastic, it's over now) and it's been a devestating time, we almost got divorced, but we're working through it. I knew telling friends and this board wasn't going to help me fight his romantic advances, but I tried. I really did! :-(
It was a one time thing that would have continued, but I wasn't too careful about the clues (guilty conscience I think). Anyway, tonight my husband and I are each going out separately dancing with some single friends and we're not holding each other back from meeting other people. We've been seriously considering just having an open marriage. I'm just wondering if anyone here has had an open marriage that worked.
Are we fooling ourselves?
I think it might help me get over that "I missed out on dating" thing that keeps bothering me since leaving the jw's and it might help his self esteem, but how do you handle the jealousies? I think I can handle it, but I doubt in the long run that he could?
Anyone that has any advice, please share it. I don't have anyone to talk to about this.
Anne
i was having a discussion last nice about these things.. i went out about a half hour after my dissing waas announced and got a tattoo.. who else has gotten tattos, or body piercings, or any type of body modificatoins done since leaving?.
kisses!.
sky
a tattoo freak, he he,
I know Andi, I don't want to end up like that either.
The fun part of my piercing and my tattoo is that no one, and I mean no one, would ever suspect me of having either. I barely wear makeup and when I do it's when I'm dressed up to meet a client for work. I am very polished and professional and with a name like Anne, how could they think I"d be anything but sweet, nice and normal?
It makes it a lot more fun when I am in a position to tell them or show them. ;-)
Anne